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Reviews showed that AMD lied: the GeForce GTX 1650 defeated the Ryzen 7 8700G

AMD will soon begin selling its latest hybrid desktop processors, the Ryzen 8000G family of chips. In anticipation of the start of sales, the trade press published reviews of two older new products: the eight-core Ryzen 7 8700G and the six-core Ryzen 5 8600G. Reviewers praised the powerful integrated graphics and overall very good performance, but the price of the chips significantly clouds the overall picture.

AMD’s new generation desktop hybrid processors combine Zen 4 cores (and in younger models also Zen 4c) and RDNA3 graphics. The Ryzen 5 8600G processor has six cores with 12 threads, a base frequency of 4.3 GHz and a maximum frequency of 5.0 GHz. Its integrated Radeon 760M graphics includes 8 execution units (512 stream processors) and operates at up to 2800 MHz. The flagship Ryzen 7 8700G, in turn, has eight cores, sixteen threads and frequencies of 4.2 and 5.1 GHz. There is a more powerful integrated graphics Radeon 780M with 12 execution units (640 stream processors) and a frequency of 2900 MHz. Both chips also have an integrated XDNA AI engine. The recommended cost for these processors is $229 and $329, respectively.

AMD itself noted at the time of announcing the Ryzen 8000G that the integrated graphics of these chips can outperform the GeForce GTX 1650. Colleagues from the website Computer base decided to check the last statement and it turned out that the system with Intel Core i5-12500 and GeForce GTX 1650 is much faster – on average by 31%. The new products also failed to overtake the combination of Ryzen 5 7500F and the discrete Radeon RX 6400 – they turned out to be 30% faster on average. In addition, the latest pair of CPU and GPU will cost significantly less than the Ryzen 7 8700G: In Germany, the Ryzen 5 7500F costs 169 euros, the price for the RX 6400 starts at 120 euros.

AMD also claimed that the older models in the new series are aimed at low-cost gaming PCs that allow comfortable gaming at a resolution of 1920 × 1080 pixels. And it actually is. The new processors are quite capable of enabling comfortable gaming in 1080p resolution, albeit with low graphics settings. Even in Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty, the older Ryzen 7 8700G showed a playable 28 FPS. In other games the results were better: in Baldur’s Gate 3 both chips showed more than 30 FPS, in Dota 2 – from 66 FPS and in Counter Strike 2 – more than 105 FPS.

As for the performance of the processor part alone, the Ryzen 7 8700G showed here the level of the Core i5-12600K and Ryzen 7 7700, while the Ryzen 5 8600G was approximately at the same level with the Ryzen 5 7500F, Ryzen 5 5600X and Core i5 -13400F. Let’s add that, as expected, the new products are significantly ahead of their predecessors.

resource TechSpot I only tested the older Ryzen 7 8700G and the results obtained are generally consistent with Computer Base’s results. For example, in F1 2023, the chip managed to achieve 125 FPS, which is 2.2 times more compared to the Ryzen 7 5700G. And in Spider-Man Remastered, the new product achieved 68 FPS. Here too, the integrated graphics of the Ryzen 7 8700G were compared with combinations of different processors and the Radeon RX 6500 XT. As expected, the new product turned out to be weaker in most cases, outperforming only the Ryzen 7 5700G and the Radeon RX 6500 XT.


Reviewers also noted that the Ryzen 8000G’s performance in games is largely influenced by RAM. In most cases, the best results were achieved with DDR5-7200 memory, and the performance increase from memory overclocking ranged from 3 to 19%, according to Computer Base. TechSpot tests, in turn, showed that switching from DDR5-5200 to DDR5-7200 allows an additional 10 FPS or even more.

As mentioned above, the Ryzen 7 8700G turns out to be disproportionately expensive. For the same money, you can achieve higher performance in games by purchasing a weaker central processor but a noticeably faster graphics card. Even if these are budget solutions. TechSpot’s tests, for example, have shown that the Core i3-12100F and Radeon RX 6600 can offer more than twice the gaming performance. Or, if you can spend a little more, you can get the Ryzen 5 7600 and Radeon RX 6600 and get about 2.5x more performance. “The idea of ​​a gaming APU for budget-conscious users always sounds great, but in practice they’re just never fast enough“, notes TechSpot.

At the same time, the Ryzen 5 8600G seems to be a much more interesting and balanced option. It allows you to comfortably play most modern games and costs less than a combination of a simple modern processor and a discrete graphics card, so it can be considered a good option for budget gaming.

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